What is a ‘solar garden’ and why we should want one

I put solar panels on my roof soon after I built this house because I was trying to plan for my retirement. That makes me one of the lucky ones, but what about those who are renting? Or simply can’t afford to put solar panels on their roofs?

Given the soaring cost of energy, this article by Citizen Mum, an Aussie blogger, really hit the nail on the head:

‘The concept of a solar garden is new in Australia, and is being developed by Pingala, a citizen led co-operative focused on developing people-centred and socially just energy solutions. At its core the concept is very simple and based along the lines of a community garden, in that cooperative members have the opportunity to purchase plots (panels) in the solar garden and have the energy that is generated from the plot credited to their power bill. It is ideal for people in rental accommodation, apartments or homes that are not suitable for rooftop solar.’

https://citizen-mum.com/2022/11/01/mid-scale-solar-can-ease-pressure-on-the-nem/

To give a little context to that quote, Citizen Mum is talking about ‘mid-scale solar arrays’. These are like the solar panels we’re used to seeing when we see photos of solar farms – fields and fields of solar panels almost as far as the eye can see:

Yeah, like those but smaller, much, much smaller. Mid scale solar arrays are big enough to provide a decent amount of solar energy, but small enough to be ‘owned’ by a small town. Or as the quote suggests, owned by the individuals of that town.

If you’re interested in mitigating climate change, and perhaps saving yourselves some money long term, I strongly suggest you read the whole article on Citizen Mum’s blog.

cheers,
Meeks

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54 responses to “What is a ‘solar garden’ and why we should want one

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  • Widdershins

    Bloody brilliant. 😀 It’s not governments and corporations that are going to help us weather through this mess (they’re the one’s wot caused it in the first place) it’s small communities, and small scale concepts like this. 😀

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  • robbiesinspiration

    Hi Meeks, this is such a good idea. We have solar geysers.

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  • mydangblog

    I love it. But do you have protesters the way we do here about our wind farms? Personally I’d love to have solar panels on our roof!

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    • acflory

      Yes, we do have some protesters but not that many I’m aware of. I know some people are concerned about the noise or birds getting killed, but the one I saw in Queensland many years ago had cows happily grazing at the feet of each turbine thingie. They didn’t seem to mind them at all.

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  • Bildo Vilanculos

    Interesting

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  • D. Wallace Peach

    That is so cool and innovative, Andrea, and what a simple idea. Wow. There are solutions out there if we just think outside the box. Thanks for the share. That was awesome.

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  • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

    We had solar panels on the house in New Jersey before we moved. I don’t know why they don’t put them on our roof here – it’s flat and not used for anything else.

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    • acflory

      It does seem a little odd. You’d think they’ want to offset their power bills.

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      • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

        I think they’re worried about the heavy initial investment for a solar installation – but having that whole roof in the California sun with airconditioning drawn from the power grid seems a lack of foresight, too.

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        • acflory

          Yes, it’d be the perfect place to harvest solar gain, and save money. Do Residents have to pay for their utility costs or are they part of the ‘whole’ package?

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            It’s included in the monthly fee – which means that of course we pay for it; fees go up annually.

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          • acflory

            Hmm…in that case you’re entitled to demand action. 😦

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            Food quality first. ‘Demand’ means a lot of resident action dumped in to combat their inertia – solar has been discussed for years.

            If electricity prices start rising, there will be action.

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          • acflory

            I hope you get some united action because otherwise you’re at the mercy of the operators with the only option being to leave. 😦

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            We are at their mercy – and leaving isn’t an option because 1) you don’t get your signup cost back after 5 years, and 2) we’d have to find somewhere else – already being older.

            They don’t get it as easy as it sounds – the Resident Council and other resident associations keep an eye on, and often reduce, costs. But of course that can mean that their initial fee request is much higher than it needs to be.

            It’s a balance. Most of us are mostly happy.

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          • acflory

            Ah, I see. I’m glad yours is a decent establishment. Over here they’re very much a mixed bag and the bad ones can be very bad. We’ve just had a Royal Commission [major inquiry with quite a lot of power] into Aged Care and the reports have been damning.

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            How much of your care is paid for by the state? Your healthcare – and that would include old age care? – is very different from ours.

            But none of us should get ripped off – we and our families need to supervise whatever money is being spent on our care, public or private. It should not go into the pockets of unscrupulous operators EVER.

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          • acflory

            Interesting point. Here in Victoria, the aged care facilities that are completely state owned and run did MILES better during the pandemic than the private facilities that are partly funded by the national government. Partly funded means that the people in the facilities pay through the nose to get 3rd rate care.
            We’re talking about people who need high care mostly – dementia patients etc – but still, we’ve all been shocked by the profits these bastards make while serving poor quality food to people unable to protest.
            I’d nationalise ALL care facilities that rely on any kind of government funding. 😦

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            Here ‘private’ does NOT mean partly funded by the government, national or otherwise. It means you pay for it yourself.

            Nationalizing seems to be more attractive to people who are used to ‘free’ (taxes pay for it) healthcare.

            Here having your own funds means you get better choices and better care. Governments don’t like to be generous.

            And NO ONE can create the caring hordes of care workers to take up these jobs and be happy with the wages! Why should they be, unless they have no other skills?

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          • acflory

            Yes, we expect our governments to actually do something with our taxes….other than pad the pockets of multinationals! lol
            Paying care workers has become a major issue. We rely on them but see their work as somehow lacking in value. It’s a very strange mental paradox.

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            Ours is entirely private; there are nursing home paid for by Medicaid for the very poor after they spend down all their assets and if they qualify – those can have bad reputations, well deserved.

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          • acflory

            Weird, ours seem to be the reverse. :/

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            Ours is expensive, and we live in much less space – sold the house to pay for a lot of it, especially the entry fee.

            But we no longer have to take care of a house we mostly don’t need, have a built-in community of VERY nice residents (the place is the favorite of U. California Davis retirees), and they maintain facilities for exercise and intellectual stimulation. Plus our kids will never have to make these decisions FOR us – we already did it.

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          • acflory

            I have taught at a very nice ‘retirement village’, which is what yours sounds like – separate units with a bit of garden if you want, cooking facilities if you want or restaurant type communal meals etc? I just can’t see myself living in a place like that, at least not yet.

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            It depends on what kinds of places are available to YOU.

            I basically picked this one (out of many similar) because I KNEW that at some point one of us would face caring for the other.

            In Mexico, my family paid for 24 hour care for my parents, first both in their own home, and then Katy took Mother to her home, and they had a separate apartment for her, with coverage arranged for her to never be alone.

            In the States, that would be prohibitively expensive. In Mexico, paid for by the government (not Mother’s care), it would be in a low quality place where carers would have too many people. But workers are less expensive, and it was possible to give our parents coverage which was later paid for by their house. Very family intensive, with all four of my sisters taking part in supervising, taking my Dad grocery shopping, etc. But the CARE part was up to the paid carers, because we could afford it – there wasn’t much left when Mother died, but we didn’t have a MAJOR contribution.

            Here we have the ability to lock our unit, tell the front desk we won’t be in for dinner until X, and go visit our kids/Bali/the Riviera Maya – and not worry about a thing.

            Plus our social life is MUCH larger because we live in a community, not an apartment building. Independent living residents have a check in button, dinner, and use of all the facilities. Higher levels of care are more expensive but in the same facility (and somewhat prepaid by our own fees) when/if we need them.

            It has been incredibly convenient – and we can stay completely isolated, too, if we want to. We don’t – it would have been far more isolating to stay in our suburban house in New Jersey during the pandemic.

            I worried every time husband got up on a ladder to trim the bushes! Here the gardens are beautiful, and the residents who want to participate direct the workers from the facility.

            I don’t know which of us might need care when – I thought it would be me, and didn’t want to get stuck in our house with my poor husband running himself ragged trying to care for me/supervise expensive in-house care.

            I have no regrets – except that no place is perfect. The CONCEPT is what I chose.

            I don’t know what your plans are for yourself when/if your mind or body start to fail – but I’m not nearly as worried as I was before, watching FIL + Sister in law take care of MIL (we were too far away for helping often) very badly IN her own home. In New Jersey.

            The realities of caring for, say, a dementia patient are unbelievably difficult in their own home. And that is one of the unfortunately common possibilities: 50% of people over 85 have dementia. Each of our mothers did. And we watched our sisters take care of each of our parents, and it was a JOB. And I CAN’T even care for myself consistently. Without husband I will NEED help – here will be easier. I’m glad we have the kids, but gladder we won’t be depending on them for day to day survival.

            Everyone chooses how to leave this world, either by making plans which work – being lucky – or by FAILING to plan, and having others need to step in.

            You’ve got me in that part of thinking – I need to go take a nap!

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          • acflory

            I cared for my father until the last 6 weeks of his life – mild dementia – so I know how hard that is. Have I made plans for myself? No. I guess the optimist in me hopes that one day I’ll just go to bed and not wake up. Not for quite a while yet though.
            Maybe by the time I get to that stage the Japanese will have perfected home-care robots. -cough- I live in hope. 🙂

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            Pretty sure those robots are going to be expensive and require maintenance. And supervision! Just not a salary.

            Plus they won’t REALLY talk to you.

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          • acflory

            lmao – I’m a geek! All of that just adds to the interest. Unfortunately the price thing will be the problem. So far I can’t even afford one of the robovac thingies. One day…one day… 😀

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            I think, from what I know of your circumstances, that prize-winning fiction is your ticket out.

            Go write some more. 🙂

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          • acflory

            Meh…I thought so too but…I don’t really believe that any more. Boomer fiction, remember?

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          • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt

            Don’t write fiction that is JUST Boomer fiction – and put some realistic old goats in there, healthy AND sick.

            We need escape literature more than ever.

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          • acflory

            lmao – I thought I’d done that! Jaimie is only 18 and he’s one of the three main characters.
            Oddly enough, I thought the tech and nod to gaming would put the older readers off, but they ‘got it’. -shrug- Truth is, I don’t know what that younger demographic want, and even if I did, I wouldn’t be able to supply it.

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  • jilldennison

    Good on you, Andrea!!! Solar energy is finally coming into its own and I wish more people would do as you have done. Unfortunately, we rent, so it isn’t an option for us, but we’re hoping to change that someday soon.

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    • acflory

      Australia went a bit mad on rooftop solar, so when I had the money it was a no brainer. I hope all renewables become ‘mainstream’ because we really are running out of time.

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      • jilldennison

        I’ve never understood the fight against developing renewable energy sources. Oh sure, I understand that it catches the fossil fuel industries with their pants down and they stand to lose a lot, and I understand that many politicians, at least here in the U.S., are bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industries. But the average Joe … has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Climate change has been proven in hundreds of different ways, and there is no denying that the future of the planet is at risk if we don’t make some fairly drastic changes NOW! So, why is the average Joe so against solar, wind, and geothermal energy sources? It will provide new jobs, new opportunity for growth, and the possibility of a life for our grandchildren! It’s a win-win, yet people act like they’re being asked to jump off a tall building naked!

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        • acflory

          I fear it’s all down to ‘marketing’…by the fossil fuel industry and much of it is via social media. Over here it seems to focus on jobs – jobs that will be lost blah blah. The constant see-saw between progressive and conservative governments has meant that the message hasn’t really been countered by those who should keep the fossil fuel barons in check. 😦

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          • jilldennison

            Just as with everything else, the power of money rules the day. The reality is that, in addition to saving the planet, renewable energy sources create new jobs, better paying jobs than the coal/oil/gas industries provide!

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          • acflory

            Yes! They do. Unfortunately they require an awful lot of people to ‘reskill’. That means a lot of them won’t be able to secure those new jobs. And they are the ones the negative marketing is aimed at. Those middle-aged workers who are fearful for their future. Fear is one of the strongest motivators around.
            Governments could counter some of that fear by creating transition plans for /everyone/, and paying for them. But…few governments are prepared to put aside short term gains for long term vision. 😦

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          • jilldennison

            Indeed, governments seem more interested in making the already-wealthy even wealthier and leaving the future of the planet to future generations to solve.

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          • acflory

            There are all sorts of corrupt reasons individual politicians would do this, but I believe the overall explanation lies in that awful furfy: ‘trickle down economics’. Governments seem to believe that a) it ever worked and b) that it is still working. This, despite proof all over the place that it does not work /now/, perhaps because the people who were supposed to benefit from the trickle are no longer needed by those with capital. Robotics and out-sourcing have stripped employees of any leverage they ever had.
            Trickle down economics is perhaps the biggest lie of the last 50 years.

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          • jilldennison

            Well, I can’t speak for Australia, but here, the politicians know damn good and well that ‘trickle down’ economics is a myth, but they believe (and in about half the populace, rightly so) that people are so stupid they will buy into it. It’s been debunked time and time and time again, yet some people are still holding onto that brass ring, hoping that their day will come. And meanwhile, the politicians laugh while dining on caviar and champagne. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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          • acflory

            lmao – not /that/ different here except maybe a meat pie and beer. 😉

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          • jilldennison

            Meat pie and beer … now that sounds a heck of a lot more appetizing than champagne and caviar!!!

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          • acflory

            -grin- it’s not bad. 😀

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