This is the third, and I promise, the last post on this autorenewals saga. I’m posting it because I received some new information from Kaspersky tech support today and I decided to check it out. According to Kaspersky, you can disable autorenewals from your shopping cart, before you buy:

Sure enough, there it is: ‘Auto-Renewal: ON – Details’. Believe me when I say that I did not see that at all when I bought Kaspersky Anti-Virus back in November 2021. My guess is that the design of the interface, including the size of the font was the result of advice from an industrial psychologist familiar with human behaviour: once you reach the shopping cart, you have already made up your mind to buy so checking for the fine print is very unlikely.
Okay, not super impressed, but let’s see if BitDefender used the same tactic:

The answer is…yes and no. As you can see from the screenshot, there is a link to ‘Auto renewal’, and it’s in the same position in the same small font, but there’s no mention of whether it is on or off. Assuming that I even saw that link, I would assume it lead to a window where I could choose to turn autorenewal on.
Apparently not:

Autorenewals are on and you can turn them off by logging into your Bitdefender Account [if you have one] or by contacting Customer Support. Unfortunately, you have to buy the product before you can do either of those things.
By contrast, this is what you get with Kaspersky:

That screenshot is telling. With Kaspersky, you are told that autorenewals are on and you are given the opportunity to turn them off before you buy. I still HATE the fact that autorenewals are turned on by default, and I also HATE that the opt-out is not presented in great big letters that you can’t miss, but at least you can turn it off before you buy. With Bitdefender you don’t even get that.
I wonder if the difference between these two companies has something to do with the fact that Kaspersky is a Russian company, so by definition it has to meet the expectations of the EU rather than the US?
I’m going to put that theory into practice when I start research for a new anti-virus. What I’ll be looking for is an EU based company that not only provides a way to turn autorenewals off but maybe never turns them on in the first place.
To the Bitdefender sales team, if they deign to read this post: ‘I will never buy a Bitdefender product again, and I will do my best to dissuade others from buying from you as well. If and when you stop making autorenewal opt-out, I may consider buying from you again.’
Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences about autorenewals-by-default. Let’s hope we can make enough of a stink to put a dent into some sales. 😀
cheers
Meeks
January 10th, 2022 at 10:15 am
You’re so good at following these things through and then sharing the details. They are so sneaky, but I’ve learned over the years to look hard for those “auto-renewal boxes! Thanks for the excellent how-to advice. 🙂
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January 10th, 2022 at 9:53 pm
To be honest, the whole autorenewal thing is new to me, but I will be very diligent from here on in. 🙂
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January 11th, 2022 at 2:07 am
When we don’t catch it, we call and cancel, but it’s an extra hassle that I’d rather not deal with. 😀
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January 11th, 2022 at 7:54 am
God yes! The last few days have been worthwhile in an information gathering sense, but I could have been doing so many other things instead of trying to protect myself from what amounts to a legalized rort.
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January 9th, 2022 at 5:25 pm
Thank god there was a kinda sorta way to disable the autorenewals!
Still its not cool that it was so hard to find it!
Hope you find a good antivirus programme!
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:03 pm
My sentiments exactly. 🙂 Fingers crossed that I find something by the time I have to renew my anti-virus protection.
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January 9th, 2022 at 3:23 pm
My security provider emails me a month before it auto-renews, providing a link I can go to if I want to “manage” my subscription. Managing includes cancelling the renewal, I think.
On the whole, I find using tech to be a source of anxiety and frustration. It feels like something is always on the brink of disaster. But we can’t live without this stuff, can we?
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:05 pm
A month is good, but do you ever forget? I know I would.
Tech used to be a tool. Now it’s been kind of weaponized in the war to squeeze the last red cent out of consumers. I blame the smarmy little twerp who owns Facebook. He showed that it could be done.
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January 9th, 2022 at 1:55 pm
Another thought, though: given what the Russians have done in the past, I wouldn’t but a product that gives them any access to my computer. Same as with autorenewal default on, I automatically distrust any company that has to function in such an environment; I don’t trust them.
Ditto many other countries – and no, you can’t always tell.
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:09 pm
lol – yes, that thought had crossed my mind as well, but I have Remote Access turned off in /Windows/ so I live in hope. Honestly? If Kaspersky were ever to turn their software against users, someone would find out, and then all hell would break loose. I don’t trust the altruism of any corporate, but I’m cynical enough to believe that they wouldn’t do anything to make the money dry up. Okay…I /hope/ that self-interest rules…
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January 10th, 2022 at 5:48 am
It’s just that certain governments have such draconian ways of enforcing their will… as the standard way of operating. One remembers East Germany. What a waste of everything, including their own people.
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January 10th, 2022 at 8:14 am
Yes, and even the less overtly draconian spy on their own people, and everyone else’s. Here in Australia, the intelligence agent who blew the whistle on my govt spying on the East Timorese govt to gain commercial secrets for a corporation…he’s being tried, in secret. There are a lot of glass houses around. 😦
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January 9th, 2022 at 1:53 pm
Like you have nothing else to do with your time!
These are ALL IQ tests – from our dining menu to the notes the doctor puts in my charts which are WRONG.
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:09 pm
-grin- not a bad way of looking at it.
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January 9th, 2022 at 12:58 pm
-smile- I can now relate to what you said about Twitter…I love your passion x
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:11 pm
lol – I have my moments. Sadly I can’t be just a little bit angry. I’m either full on Donna Quixote or not at all.
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:25 pm
Haha.. Go girl.. It must be living here which has mellowed me somewhat… x
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January 9th, 2022 at 11:19 pm
I’ve never been to Thailand but it looks so lovely and what you’ve said about the people makes it sound so inviting. Zen is good!
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January 9th, 2022 at 12:24 pm
There are days I h*** everyone, including my beloved tech.
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January 9th, 2022 at 6:13 pm
lol – oh yes! Me too. 😀 😀 😀
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